猎魔人第二季

Fuck it. I decided to compile a list of every change between Season 2 and Blood of Elves

Heavy spoilers for the books and Season 2!

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This is not all-encompassing. I'll forget some changes--Heaven knows the writers made enough changes. I'll also preface this by saying: This isn't a commentary on the quality of the season itself. It is simply a collection of the differences between the novel and the show.

**Characters**

* Voleth Meir is not in the books. Completely new character.

* Geralt wouldn't use Ciri as bait in the books. Nor did he.

* Ciri is never possessed by a witch.

* Yennefer does not lose her magic in the books.

* Yennefer never considers sacrificing Ciri for power. Nor does the opportunity ever arise.

* Yennefer is not captured by Niilfgard in the books.

* Instead, she is blinded following Sodden after taking a fireball to the face from Fringilla. She then spends lots of time in recovery, then--on Dijkstra's orders--tails and saves Dandelion from Rience.

* No one ever thinks she's dead in the books either (Geralt worries that she died after Sodden, if I recall, but finds out rather quickly she's still out there after talking to Triss at the Sodden memorial)

* Later in the series (Post Time of Contempt/Late Season 3 or early Season 4 by comparison), people suspect Yennefer of being a Nilfgaardian spy. But at no point does anyone suspect her of being a spy following Sodden.

* The Stregobor stuff isn't a thing in the books. He's there, but plays no important role.

* Vessemir wouldn't try to use Ciri's blood to create more witchers in the books. Nor would he ever allow Ciri to undergo the Trial. Nor would he let Eskel bring a bunch of hookers to Kaer Morhen

* In the books, Dandelion is actively working with Djikstra and the Redanian Secret Service. ~~This is removed in the show~~ It is implied that Djikstra is funding Dandelion's sandpiper activities, though Dandelion doesn't seem to be aware of who he is working with. This is speculative on my part though.

* Also in the books, Dandelion is not nearly as comedic as he was in Season 2. He is funny, but they seemed to lean into that aspect of him for Season 2.

* This is more my interpretation, but in the books, Dandelion is far wittier than he is in the show. He certainly doesn't come across as the type to talk to rats in the book.

* Djikstra is not a rambling drunk in the books (although I didn't find that to be a bad change. It was pretty interesting IMO).

* I don't believe Istredd even appears in Blood of Elves

* Francesa Findabar is *not* with the Scoia'tael in the books. By this, I mean she's not in the field with them, acting as their leader.

* She is a member of the Brotherhood of Sorcerers, though she does harbor sympathies for their cause and occasionally meets with Scoia'tel leaders (Filavandrel, as an example). This relationship becomes relevant when she aids Niilfgaard during the Coup at Thanned

* Fringilla Vigo does not become de facto leader of Cintra in the books. Instead, she fucks off to Niilfgard

* Cahir is not captured by the Brotherhood following Sodden in the books. I don't even recall if he was at Sodden. As far as I recall, he traveled back to Niilfgard following the Fall of Cintra, and was imprisoned for failing to capture Ciri. We don't see him again for another two books after Sodden.

* His execution plot-point never happened in the books.

* Book Cahir is also not nearly as mustache-twirly-evil-villain as he is in the show. Cahir fans will know what I mean.

* Tissaia is hardly a significant character in the books.

* Rience is not a magical bounty hunter in the books. He's an almost fanatical follower of Vilgefortz in the books.

* Rience is scarred in the show and books, but in the books, it's because Yennefer uses her magic to wound him as he's interrogating Dandelion.

* Lydia Van Bredevoort does not develop her scars from sniffing a vial of elder blood in the books. Instead, her scars are a result of magical experimentation on Vilgefortz' orders, and her wounds are hidden with an illusion.

* Eskel is not turned into a Leshen and then killed (as far as we know. He's not in the books for long.)

* Vilgefortz and Tissaia are not a romantic thing, as far as I could tell. Nor are they really even partners. Vilgefortz is also the genuine champion of Sodden in the books. He does this to gain more authority in the Brotherhood.

* Vilgy is also way stronger and smarter in the books then how he is depicted in the show. Also, Vilgy never says his classic line. This is a cardinal sin, imo.

* Nenekke is an old and religious lady. She doesn't go around dropping f-bombs in the books.

* Emhyr kept the fact that Ciri was his daughter a big secret in the books. Understandable, given his plans for her (**cough** Imperial Incest **cough**)

* Jarre in the books is a bit of a geek, who is very clearly awkward around girls, and has a crush on Ciri. But he's also smart, and good-intentioned. The show reduces him to a dick joke.

**Plot Points**

* Except for Ciri's training, there is not a single fight at Kaer Morhen. Never. There is no Leshen, nor is there the centipede thing with the claws. There is no possession.

* There are only four witchers at Kaer Morhen (Vessemir, Eskel, Lambert, and Coen)

* At Kaer Morhen, Ciri trains and exercises. Eventually, Triss arrives (on Geralt's request) and instructs Ciri on the basics of magic, as well as the Elder language.

* The plot point with Ciri's blood being able to make more witchers is not in the books.

* Vesemir never collects her blood either. The thought of making more witchers is only ever entertained in the context of Ciri being raised as a girl vs. being raised as a witcher. But the mutagenic process itself/Trial of Grasses is never brought up.

* In the book, Triss travels with Ciri and Geralt to the Temple. In the show, she doesn't. We don't see her get sick.

* On the path to the Temple is when they run into Yarpen Zigrin again. This doesn't happen in the show. As a result, Ciri doesn't visit Shaerrawedd, and there is no fight with the Scoia'tael.

* There is no fight at Melitele's Temple in the books. Never.

* Yennefer does not travel to the Temple to kidnap Ciri and sacrifice her in the books.

* In the books, Ciri and Yennefer stay at the temple for a while. Ciri learns more magic.

* Yennefer is invited to the temple by Geralt after Geralt has already left. See the 'Dear Friend,' bullet point further down.

* There is no reunion between Geralt and Yennefer in Blood of Elves. They reunite outside Gors Velen in the next book.

* In the books, Rience does not find Ciri at the Temple. Instead, Geralt leaves Ciri in Nenekke's care to find Rience at Oxenfurt.

* There is no Shani in the show. >:(

* Phillipa does not help Geralt find Rience, nor does she help Rience escape: as she does in the books.

* In fact, Rience doesn't meet Ciri till the Time of Contempt, which is the next book following Blood of Elves.

* Dandelion doesn't sing at a tavern in Oxenfurt. He sings at Bleobheris, a sacred tree.

* His Sandpiper plot is not a thing in the books.

* Dandelion is not arrested in the books.

* The elf and Cintra plot is not in the books.

* There is a non-human uprising in the North in the books, led by the Scoia'tael, but they are not given Cintra as a place of refuge by the Niilfgardians. Instead, Niilfgard is suspected of funding and arming them behind the scenes to stoke instability in the North.

* Francesca never gets pregnant. Nor does Emhyr commit infanticide against an elven baby in the books.

* The notion that a pure-blooded elf hasn't been born in decades is also a Netflix invention. Elves have a much smaller window of time to get pregnant, but it still happens in the books. Avallach and Geralt talk about this in Tower of Swallow.

* The magical politics is a thing in the books, but is very different from the magical politics in the show. Stregobor does not interrogate or harm Yennefer, and neither do Tissaia/Vilgy use that as an excuse to seize Council seats.

* Instead, the magical politics in the book are concerned with the growing distrust between the Kings and their magical advisors

* The meeting of the Kings at the end of Season 2 is the meeting of the Kings in BoE that puts the Mages on edge, and is used to justify the Conclave in Time of Contempt. However, Tissaia is at the King's meeting in the show, which is not the case in the book. No mages were invited to the meeting in the books.

* When the Kings of the North meet, they do conclude it best to kill Ciri--so as to prevent her falling into Emhyr's hands (they don't want him to have a legitimate claim to the Cintran throne). However, the show cut the King's talk of war with Niilfgaard.

* In the books, they believe a quick strike across the Yaruga could recapture Cintra, and deal a blow to the South. This conversation paves the way for the Second Great War, but does not happen in the show.

* The show also leaves out the politics regarding Cintra's throne. Cordhingrer is visited by Geralt in the books, and they develop a plot to--essentially-- smear Calanthe's name and ruin her claim to the Cintrant throne, thus making Ciri's claim to the throne illegitimate. Thus, protecting her from the kings who want her dead for her political power.

* Again, the Voleth Meir plot is not in the books at all. Instead, Blood of Elves focuses on Ciri's training and planting the seeds for future conflicts.

* I.e. the Second Great War, the Coup of Thanned, Character's motivations to capture Ciri, etc.

* The Monoliths are not a thing in the books.

* The 'Dear Friend,' bit is in reference to letters exchanged by Yennefer and Geralt while Geralt is in Oxenfurt hunting for Rience. Geralt asks Yennefer to travel to the temple to train Ciri. Again, Geralt and Yen don't actually meet though.

* In the books, Niilfgardians are depicted as something more akin to the Romans or English (Highly centralized government with progressive and aristocratic traditions and legal codes). In the books, they are not religious zealots. Though they are also not necessarily 'good' either.

* Yennefer and Cahir never have a team-up in the books.

* Tissaia does not recommend that Ciri be captured, nor does she suggest that anyone protecting her be captured as well. In fact, Tissaia's role in the show is dramatically overblown.

* Ciri is not with Geralt when he meets Nivellen.

* Istredd does not meet with Cordringer and Fenn in the books. Geralt does meet them to find information about Rience and Ciri.

It's not an exaggeration to say that the *majority* of this season is different from the books. And not just sort of different, but drastically different. Hell, the last four or five episodes are fictitious (relative to the book canon (yes I know it's all fiction, please stop reminding me)) in nearly every way. At this point, I'm not certain where the story will go. For example, how will the Coup play out on Thanedd if Ciri won't be able to attend it? And if Ciri isn't at Aretuza for the Coup, then how will she be warped to the desert? And if she isn't separated from Geralt and Yennefer, then how will she meet up with the Rats?

Obviously, they can still work these plots in, or at least, work in the *effects* of these plots, but the story will take a drastically different turn than the one the book tells.

Note that this isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, so long as it's done well. But there has to come a point when the adaptation is so drastically different from the source material, that I start to wonder whether it's truly an adaptation, or if it's a reimagining.

作为粉丝还会继续追下去，但这一季感觉节奏有点慢，说教的台词有点多。

除了第一集明显是短篇改编，后面是一个加了不少原创的剧情的长篇，加一个原创boss再草草写死几个人，总体并不高明。

人物性格和行为相比于小说也都显得肤浅而缺乏个性。Geralt拿Ciri做诱饵，Yennefer会打Ciri的主意然后低头认错，Vesemir想要Ciri的血去造新猎魔人，都是一些想当然小人之心的改编，而原著里这些人物绝不会干的事。

编剧想贯彻善恶之间的灰色地带，却把重心放在了模糊主角的道德原则上，而不是这个世界的黑暗残酷上。整个世界和人物的动机比原著世界“美式现代”了不少，有一种stranger things的感觉。

原著人物确实有点过多，改编要学会取舍，而不是让配角人物设定语焉不详，性格模糊，动机不明。尤其是法师会的那帮人。Stregobor上蹿下跳到底想干啥？Vilgefortz反而在打酱油。Tissaia倒是挺露脸，就是怎么突然从嫌弃到那么心疼Yennefer转变有点接受不了。

在我看来，《猎魔人》是一部堪与《权游》媲美的魔幻剧集，同样展现了一个平行于中古欧陆的架空世界观，只是内容和影调上更偏重阴暗的哥特风。第二季第一集讲述的是关于吸血女妖的故事，剧名小标题：“True Blood”（真爱如血）。灵感来源于博蒙夫人的童话作品《美女与野兽》。

薇瑞娜外表看起来是个苍白而柔弱的女孩，当然并不是每个人都能亲眼目睹她的这张“清秀”面孔。当攻击猎物的时候，她会变身为面目狰狞、满嘴獠牙的妖怪！她栖身在废弃的古堡里，与被魔法诅咒变成野兽的古堡主人相爱相杀，过着黑暗嗜血的日子。直到女主希瑞带着她的“猎魔人”骑士来访。

如果一个人或者某个情景令你心动，相信那一定是你从中看到了自己——一个同样独特的灵魂，和自己太过相似，仿佛内心投射出的镜像——薇瑞娜暗中打量着公主，抑制不住好奇与狂喜。她早已经厌倦了杀戮，但无法克制吸血的本能；她羡慕人世间的温暖，却不得不与黑夜为伍！

于是在邂逅宿命的寒夜，她又一次变回那个柔弱无助的女孩，“潜入”到公主的睡梦中。她用手指蘸了一下希瑞的眼泪，放到自己的唇边，她想体验情感融在指端咸涩的味道，那是她一直渴望拥有而注定无法拥有的东西！她用一种奇特如响尾蛇般颤动的语言和她交流，还送上好看的裙子作为礼物。两个纤弱的女孩（其中一个至少形体上是）在古堡摇曳的烛影中交谈——这一幕为何竟会如此打动我？也许和薇瑞娜遇见希瑞一样，我也从中听到了自己内心深处如融雪一般孤独的声音…

“怪物”实际是根本不存在的，它不过是人们为了排除异己而生造出来的词汇。就像剧中面对公主“你是怪物吗？”的发问，薇瑞娜怅然回答道：“你也与众不同，难道你也是怪物吗？”“怪物害人，而人害一切！”作为一个猎杀者，她虽生性凶残，却又其心可悯。她代表了那些被排斥在主流社会之外的边缘化群体，以及所有不被理解的心声，想寻求一种归属感，却只能被“人类的世界”拒之门外，内心永远被孤独和绝望包围。

故事的结尾耐人寻味：害人的怪物得到了应有的下场——猎魔骑士斩下了薇瑞娜的头。她的头颅滚落在雪中没了声息，眼中的光亮也在暗夜中渐渐熄灭。而她的血——以死亡之吻献上的真爱之血——喷溅在古堡主人的身上，诅咒解除了！公主和她的骑士重新踏上征途，薇瑞娜最后留下的一句话：有一天你（希瑞）也会和我一样。

没有感情的“怪物”在最后时刻奉献了真爱，而得到真爱的人却无法让它哪怕在手中多停留一秒。或许爱终究是可遇而不可求的东西，得到的同时也意味着失去，正如Linkin Park在《One More Light》中的唱词——

“There are things that we can have but can't keep”…

第二季渐渐找到画风了，看过的都知道和第一季差距特别大。

之前的问题就是文戏有点文绉绉有点想做史诗的感觉，但编剧美工导演无法合作融洽在Tv这个载体做出来他们要的东西。并且这季故事总算按正常时间线来了，并且没有回忆杀。终于知道观众爱看什么了。可以讲清楚一个故事了。

在这里希望觉得原著还有游戏有区别的高抬贵手别打低分 另一个猎魔人宇宙 难道就不香？游戏党现在宽容多了 希望原著党可以学习。毕竟游戏里，杰洛特死了可以读档，杰洛特做的错误的决定，可以通过读档来获得一个相对好的“小恶”，一个相对好的任务结局。而这里的每一个人在我们如果不知道原著和游戏的剧情，他们做的是唯一且不可以悔改的结局。

为什么威瑟米尔不可以有私心为了自己的孩子们？每一个猎魔人都是他的孩子，一个个死在面前加上Baba Yaga（那个老太太demon）的蛊惑，为什么不能在一瞬间上头伤害了ciri？其他时候 威斯米尔没有演出来一个合格的慈祥的老猎魔人？是真的演出来了有血有肉。

为什么椰奶不可以有私心，看过原著的都知道椰奶可不是道德标杆，三观可一点都不正。满脑子都是力量 美貌 享乐，我觉得剧集已经尽量在凸显危险的蛇蝎美人的魅力并且还让椰奶更加有情有义了

关于说颜色问题的，咱们没有zz的zq问题，理性探讨一下。为什么精灵不能有黄和黑皮的。因为这是凯尔特文化？因为北欧没有颜色？那这个世界 或者任何一个架空世界 也没有颜色？因为作者没写这是个黑人我们要尊重作者？那作者有明确的说精灵里没有黄黑人种了么？多一些宽容 魔幻世界 不是zz剧 不是历史剧 我们想看一个好故事 不要被带了节奏 跟着一些别有用心的人的节奏毁了这个剧。觉得黑皮看的恶心 哪怕你想成兽人也可以 但麻烦不要打低分咱别说出来 豆瓣确实没有国际影响力 但现在还能自由自在说这个颜色问题 咱们都心知肚明就可以了，但因为这样的事情给差评传到国外对咱们国人是不是有影响？

如果没有资本注入，这个剧砍了我们看什么？如果这个ip没热度了 还有什么衍生作品吗？cdpr已经跌落神坛 原著小说没有cdpr在这个年代没有人会注意到这ip的。确实是个好ip 但不要听什么尬吹这个书比肩指环王或者冰与火。

看看剧的诚意。第一季导演炫技砸到脚。第二季知错就改好好讲故事。第一季预算不够有怪物基本都晚上，第二季哪怕特效不是那么好也愿意突破勇敢在白天做怪物打斗。知道看客喜欢看大超巷战，这季也有。知道迎合游戏党，做了很多怪物类型，有注意到吗？杰洛特的剑也变成了两把，在马的背包中。知道是成人向 在这个说任何话都会被zz的zq的情况下 尽量不触碰任何道德和意识形态问题 但给我们漏了成人向的奶¥子，也有脏话和血浆。还有一个华裔猎魔人，舞剑方法都和其他人不一样。包括通缉令从天而降掉到水里，椰奶拿起来指甲里的泥和纸上的水。处处都是细节处处都有诚意。

最后说一下。希望诸位高抬贵手，当年Witcher3出来的时候、没几个人知道1和2。没几个人知道原著。是热爱这个ip的人口口相传授之以鱼仙人指路。希望这个ip可以更好 剧中每一个人物在原著中都有，希望可以看到这些人物在剧中的表现，有文学讲不出来的人物弧光和成长，有游戏看不到的视听语言。

有些改编是可取的，比如让希瑞加入童话的真实性（真爱如血）这一短篇中，可以避免犯第一季时间线混乱的错误。贯穿整季的林中老妪也是不错的原创内容，她引出了叶妮芙的故事，而且最后和整个世界最大的威胁狂猎联系在一起，有始有终，all make sense了。

猎魔人Eskel和第一季的莫斯萨克类似，虽然他们一直活到游戏第三部，但剧中因为后续戏份不多早早领了便当。可是Eskel完全颠覆原本冷静理智的形象，乖张而莽撞，忘记怪物的致命要害，甚至带一群风尘女子到凯尔莫罕（非常非常非常离谱，网飞一定付给了安杰伊老爷子一大笔钱才能让他忍受这样的桥段），活脱脱一个差生模样。

Francesca是一个术士，也是个政治动物，而不是被复仇冲昏头脑的绝望母亲。她在将来的仙尼德岛政变中要扮演关键角色，剧中她和术士协会完全没了瓜葛，真不知道这段故事要如何发展。

维瑟米尔想利用希瑞，甚至叶妮芙也想利用希瑞，还出现了杰洛特挥剑指向叶妮芙的场景。这些改编不仅仅是让原著党无法满意的问题，对角色形象和人物关系的影响也是很大的。劳伦-施密特-希斯里斯对“灰色道德观”的理解似乎有些浅薄，让角色做蠢事或坏事并不能体现这一点。

杰洛特变成了一个男妈妈的样子。他的倔脾气，他的冷幽默，他常常不合时宜的原则性，他努力想藏但藏不住的正义感，他偶尔流露出的孩子气，他面对一个突如其来的青少年养女的手足无措，这些全都无影无踪。这个杰洛特太完美，缺少了很多魅力。

相对来说，更喜欢第一季让我觉得太油的亚斯克尔了。他成了最与众不同的角色。

台词一直飘在天上，完全没有烟火气——生活质感本来是猎魔人作为一部奇幻小说很独特的亮点。

所有猎魔的过程都有着一致的节奏：先把气氛烘托到位，简短的交手后一刀毙命。是缺钱了吗？

总结，劳伦-施密特-希斯里斯的剧作水平不太担得起《猎魔人》，她的才华在原著作者面前犹如火苗面对火炉。

就问奇不奇怪，第一季里金发金眉那么仙，第二季顶着金发结果一双粗黑眉真的不违和吗？？？我仙气灵动的希瑞怎么变憨憨了？

刚看了第一季，确实是原著里提到的真人真事…但是为什么大家都演得这么的尴尬呢，小希瑞一点都没有原著里的活泼灵动了，镜头剪辑也很生硬，让人看不出前因后果来，真的不知道为啥网飞不能忠实于原著，其实在7部书中，最精华的部分就是前两部中的短篇，网飞非但没有拍好，还无中生有了不少内容……刚看完原著真的觉得混乱得不行